S6, EP8: The antidote to boring wedding films with Kimberly Moore

Aleks: All right, Kimberley and Eddy, stop arguing. Let’s introduce the episode. We’re all a bit like high from the coffee we’ve had and the donuts.

Eddy: Sugary donuts.

Kimberley: Yum!

Eddy: Welcome back to another episode of Project Engaged. I think we said that last time.

Aleks: No, we did. We said, “Welcome back,” but when you say, “to what?” Why we’re here.

Eddy: We have a very special guest today.

Aleks: She’s got fabulous hair. I told her she looks like a bride with these Hollywood – she’s got Hollywood waves.

Eddy: Oh, you are pretty glam today, actually.

Kimberley: M-Tav.

Aleks: I didn’t get told that today, but that’s fine because my hair is three-day-old wedding hair.

Eddy: We have to always compliment the guest. That’s what we do.

Kimberley: You can continue doing that, though. For my self-esteem. We need to increase your self-esteem.

Aleks: I did write an intro, but as per usual, I shall ignore it because I don’t really know how – Eddy likes to read it out. He likes to be very formal.

Eddy: All right, do it. Ready?

Aleks: Yeah.

Eddy: On the show today, we are joined by Kimberley Moore.

Aleks: Kimberley!

Eddy: Kimberley, or Kimmy, or Kim. What does she do? She’s not a photographer.

Kimberley: She’s not a photographer.

Eddy: She’s a Melbourne-based filmmaker who is essentially the antidote to the boring wedding video, which we all really dislike.

Aleks: If you’ve seen her work, you’ll know that it is all super high-energy, cinematic, and slightly wild vibe.

Eddy: It is just like her. I like it. Do you remember that time she did that kick? Were you there for the kick?

Kimberley: I can’t remember when I did it because I’ve done it so much.

Eddy: She has a real knack for capturing those massive party moments and the raw, in-between stuff that actually makes a wedding day what it is.

Aleks: Am I reading the rest of it? Okay. I write these things, I’m not committed to it. You can take your jacket off while I go through this. We love her style because it’s completely cheese-free, which is in line with our whole philosophy, and it’s focussed on the fun bit of the day. So we’re going to chat to her about how to keep the atmosphere high and how she captures those epic reaction videos that we keep seeing on her socials. Viral alert! Are they viral? Yes, they are.

Eddy: How was that for an intro?

Kimberley: That was great. I just love hearing people talk about me, so that’s amazing.

Aleks: Well, you know, actually, this is really bad because we used to – when we introduced guests on previous seasons, we used to read out their Google reviews and guests were always like, “Wow, I am good”. And now we haven’t been doing it anymore because their heads got too busy. So, sorry about that. But you’re amazing.

Kimberley: Keep me humble, I like it.

Aleks: Keep you humble while also increasing your self-esteem. Welcome, Kimberley!

Kimberley: Thank you guys for having me, I’m so excited to be here.

Eddy: And you’re away from quite a few little souls at the moment.

Kimberley: Shout out to my cats. Or her children. She tells everyone that she’s got six children at the moment she’s looking after.

Eddy: Well, technically I have nine, but so I have two cats, a dog, and then I found six stray kittens.

Kimberley: I found them after a wedding. I was coming home, and the wedding was also on my birthday. So I saw it as a sign. I went and followed it, and then I found the others, found the mom, and we’ve captured the six. We’re going to get the mom and get her de-sexed.

Eddy: So the mom is a stray as well, right?

Kimberley: Yeah, so six kittens and a mom. And then I came back, we captured the kittens, and now we’re going back for the mom. So hopefully by the time this is released, I’ll have the mom, she’ll be de-sexed.

Eddy: Can you quick-fire name them all?

Kimberley: Yes, I can. I have Oreo, Nugget, Toast, Muffin, Graham, and there’s one more… oh no, Cheddar! I don’t forget them because I had McDonald’s in the car at the time.

Eddy: So the Graham combo?

Kimberley: Yeah, and Graham was just a cool name. My cousin was like, “Is there a grey cat? Great, I’ll have him, I want to call him Graham”. And we didn’t know if it was a boy or a girl, but I said even if it was a girl, I thought it was a cool name for a girl. Yeah, I was hoping it was a girl, but all six were male. So that’s six cats that are now off the streets. Spay your cats, de-sex them.

Aleks: Important message from Kimberley Moore. Now, it’s very hard to tell the sex of a cat because I tried to look at Cashew’s pee-pee, and it’s so tiny you can’t really see.

Kimberley: Because he’s de-sexed. Do they take the whole thing off?

Aleks: He’s got the fluffy balls. That’s how you can tell.

Eddy: But where’s the penis? All right, explicit warning on this. Sorry guys, we made it five minutes.

Aleks: “Penis” is not an explicit word. No, it’s just, oh yeah, anatomy.

Kimberley: Well, when the person came to help vaccinate them, she wasn’t a vet but she was the owner of Oscar’s Rescue, which helps rehabilitate cats and that. She just had a look and there was clearly two little testicles.

Eddy: You can tell by the balls.

Aleks: Because my cat is the same, yeah, I can’t see his, but I think it’s because when they de-sex a cat they kind of remove the insides so it’s like…

Kimberley: I don’t know, maybe cut that out.

Eddy: If there are any veterinarians, please write in.

Aleks: So they don’t have a little penis? Okay.

Kimberley: They do, but it’s pretty much… yeah, I’ve never seen it.

Aleks: So they’re kind of genderless, really.

Eddy: Well, Cashew’s got big boy energy.

Aleks: But he’s also a big softie. So who knows? And then Khaleesi’s a girl, so yeah, she’s a bit feisty. She’s spicy. She’s eight years?

Eddy: Do you like how I know cats?

Aleks: Yeah, you do know cats.

Eddy: Yeah, I know people by their animals. That’s how I suss people out as well. I’m like, “Oh, will your pets be joining us on the day?” And they’ll either be like, “No,” and I’ll be like, “Oh, okay, I’m actually booked on your wedding day”. No, they’ll say no, and I’ll be like, “Is it because they’re cats?” I’m like, “Oh, so they’re not going to be – yeah, that’s completely fine. I can still film your wedding”. Because yeah, the cats can’t. But, you know, you can do the – well, actually we were talking about, we do need – you’re not a photographer, it doesn’t apply to you, but we need some photos with the cats at home. We need some like family portraits.

Eddy: Can I wear a turtleneck?

Aleks: We will only be wearing turtlenecks, basically.

Eddy: And then no, but then you should get the cats to wear a turtleneck as well.

Aleks: Oh God, it’ll be hard enough to get them in the photo.

Eddy: And then you get the nice white vignette around it as well, so it’s like just like a really ’70s, sort of ’80s glow to it.

Aleks: Okay, good. Well, this is really relevant. What are we – what are we here for? What are we talking about?

Eddy: We’re raising money for cats.

Kimberley: Yes, very important. So Oscar’s Rescue, I’m going to do a little fundraiser for them after I’ve gotten these cats de-sexed, found them homes, and the mom home. Then I’m going to do some raising money because they just came for free and vaccinated them. They’re all volunteers. Like Sugar and Spice Rescue as well.

Eddy: Sugar and Spice is another one we got Cashew from. We’re quite friendly with them and they do some amazing things.

Kimberley: It’s – and they’re all – all places currently now are full. They’re overcapacity. So it’s a very big thing close to my heart, but I’ll keep talking about it.

Aleks: No, that’s really good. We’re going to give all our money to cat charities when we die.

Kimberley: Smart.

Eddy: Well, we’ll try and spend as much – we’ll spend most of it, but…

Aleks: Live it! And then cat charity, set up a little trust.

Eddy: Kitty trust.

Aleks: Tax benefit.

Eddy: Donate to someone who – I’ll probably die at the same time. This is also going to be a scam of how I’m going to take your money. It’s fraud. You heard it here first. Oh my God, no.

Aleks: All right, so let’s talk about video. Let’s talk about wedding films. Moving right on. Okay, now, what makes a – what would you say? So we’ve got the standard wedding video, right? We’ve all seen those, the kind of traditional slow-mo, vows over the top of the bride getting ready, speeches over the top of the bride getting ready, the bride getting ready. Sorry, did I mention the bride getting ready?

Eddy: Bride, yes.

Aleks: Sometimes there is not a bride at a wedding. I’m sorry.

Kimberley: I was about to say that.

Aleks: I’m sorry. You put your foot in it. How long did it take? Eight minutes?

Kimberley: You know what? You corrected yourself though.

Aleks: No, I was getting to that. She checked herself before she wrecked herself.

Eddy: No, okay, but when I think about traditional wedding videos, that’s what, you know, you think about the dress in the window and all that crap. If they do, yeah, if they’re wearing a dress, if it is in this situation a bride and a groom. Or a bride and a bride. I get to see like the groom’s comforting sometimes as well.

Aleks: Yeah, well I was getting – I’m painting a picture, I’m telling a story. I haven’t got to that bit anyway. Just be quiet now. No, but you know, you see the standard kind of stock-standard videos. And then there’s your videos. Different category. Fun videos. What, like to the layperson, and especially, you know, couples planning their weddings, they might not really understand – well, they probably don’t understand what goes into it, let’s be honest, what goes into film. What makes a fun wedding video versus a standard, more traditional one? Because I think a lot of couples when they’re like, “Ugh, we don’t want a videographer,” think about those videos.

Kimberley: Yes, so I’ll be the first person to tell people I’m not the person to speak to to convince you to get a video because I’m very, very strongly on the fence of like, “Hey, I’m strongly on the fence…” I’m very – I have strong opinions on everyone should get a film, regardless of the type of one. So even if it’s not a fun one. For me, I guess it’s just been the reason my films are the way they are is because it’s just leaning into what I’m passionate about. And I’m passionate about showcasing the range of emotions of a wedding day. There’s so many technical aspects that can go into it, but my biggest thing I focussed on is I get to know the couple, and I get to know what they want, and I get to know what their vision kind of is, without saying, “What is your vision? What would you like your film to be?” I just ask them a few questions to be like, “What are you most excited about? When you think of your day, what are you hoping to remember?” And then from that, I just curate the day. Obviously a wedding day you can only control so much without overstepping. So I let probably 80% of the day go as it is, and then there will just be those few moments where I’m like, “This is really important to them”. So the dance floor’s really important to them, so whatever I hear, and then in my pre-consult I think it’s also I just don’t arrive on the day and film it. I know a lot of their preferences beforehand. So if they say we want a wild dance floor, I will say to them, “Great, so make sure you’re on the dance floor for a little bit,” and I make sure like I’ll see who the DJ is, I’ll be like, “You’ve got a great team,” and then on the day if I’m not getting that, I will actually go to them and say, “Hey guys, um, just get on the dance floor for one song for me”. I will say that, but I know I can because that was what they wanted. Whereas a couple that have said to me, “I want an intimate, romantic, candid day,” I’m not going to go down – I’m going to save my direction for maybe the portrait session. So I don’t want to be there the whole time be like, “Do this, do this, do this”. I’ll pick those moments that I know are important to them. For editing, that’s what helps my films a lot, and there’s so many technical aspects, but I don’t want to bore people that I guess are listening – couples – but for me I like different pacing, I like music that tells their story, but I’m very passionate about what I pick. So, and hopefully the couple that have chosen me, as long as they’ve liked my films, then they’re on the right track. So I’m a big believer in getting couples to say, “Have you seen the work? Have you seen what I can do? Great, which film stood out to you?” Because they have an idea, but let me see what films you liked because I know how I created that.

Aleks: It’s very – yeah, it’s interesting that you like gather all that stuff because sometimes, like, no offence to photographers – God, we’re always insulting people on this bloody podcast. Anyway.

Eddy: She’s a videographer.

Aleks: Yeah, I know, but I was going to say – no, I’m sorry. She’s about to – she’s about to slam some photographers.

Kimberley: No, no!

Aleks: I’ve got a story.

Kimberley: I know.

Aleks: No, it’s not a story, but like sometimes you’ll get a wedding where there’s like, you know, a photographer just like rolls in, or a videographer, and’s like, “What’s going on? Have you got a run sheet? What time – what are they doing? When’s this happening?” And I’m like, “Um, have you – do you know the couple? Have you bothered -“

Eddy: “Name the couple!”

Kimberley: Oh my goodness!

Aleks: So like I have had so many situations where I’m like, “Do you know what’s going – like are they making speeches today?” Like I’m like…

Eddy: Or the videographers that come up to you – oh, let’s not get started on this one – “Can I plug in, please? Hello, who are you?”

Aleks: Yeah, “Hi, my name is – is it okay? Hello”.

Eddy: “Yeah, or how about speaking? How is the sound coming out? What mic are you using? What is your name? Hello, nice to meet you, I’m the videographer today”. “Oh, hello, nice to meet you”.

Kimberley: That – that is unfortunately like – no, I’m not going to throw shade on videographers, but like that is a standard that us DJs have.

Aleks: Really?

Kimberley: Okay, so I thought that it was changing, but it clearly hasn’t. So this is a note to all videographers.

Eddy: Oh, absolutely not all videographers.

Kimberley: No, but most – like when you’re doing this, when you’re doing the job, it is a collaborative experience. So the biggest example I have is when you walk in and up to the celebrant and you say, “Hey, I want a line out,” you shouldn’t be doing that. You should have already contacted them and said, “Hi, my name is so-and-so, I’m going to get a line out, I’m going to record, is that okay?” They have a job to do and they’re also performing. So for me, I wouldn’t be able to get up and speak in front of a hundred people and be like, “Hey guys,” like they have to do that, now they have to worry about their potentially mic not working because you’ve touched it. I’m a big believer of it’s everyone’s space. And it’s the same as on the day. So when a couple ask me, “Hey Kimberley, we’re thinking of this for our ceremony,” and I’ll be like, “As much – I have an opinion on everything. I have an opinion on every single aspect, but I will always say, ‘That is a great – I can give you my opinion, however this sounds like a question for your celebrant, for your DJ, for your venue,’ because too many fingers in one pot. Like I have an opinion of how the night should run for me, purely for me for video, that’s not going to suit a DJ. For example, if I say, ‘Oh, you could do a sparkler exit earlier,’ I’ve just been found out recently like, oh, that doesn’t work because it takes it away from the dance floor. And I’m like, okay, well maybe we can – how can we work that in a way that suits both? So I’m very big on – thanks for saying that. No, that’s all right. No, but it’s not a hard thing, and I think for video it should be pre-production, production, post-production. So a lot of videographers for me, I’m very big on the pre-production and it makes everything run smoother. That’s because my background’s in film and that’s because my degree’s in producing, so and theatre. So it’s just something that’s important to me. I want to be as organised as possible because chaos can happen on the day, but I know, okay, this is what’s important to them, these are the moments that they’ve really focussed on, chaos is happening here, but I know that she really wants to do a first look with these people, if that’s what’s happening. I know the kids are important, but I don’t want to ask – and also I also don’t believe – I hate when people or when I see photographers – I don’t want to shit on photographers, I love you photographers.

Aleks: We love you! We love you photographers!

Kimberley: No, I hate when videographers or photographers say, “Oh, do you want a photo here? Do you want this?” You should kind of know that. One of the questions I ask in my pre-consult is “What did you love about the venue?” You can still do it, but on the wedding day they’ve got so much – they don’t want to make a decision. “Do you want to do a veil shot?” Sometimes if I’m unsure I will ask, I don’t want to say I don’t ask people, but I kind of know beforehand the direction – like I’ll know pretty much going in if they want to do a champagne pop or not. I’m not going to waste their time doing something they don’t want to do. Of course. So again, the reason my films are what they are I feel is because of the pre-production. And all it takes – I say it’s like a long process – all it takes is an hour with the couple, not even. I’ve got a questionnaire, go through that, I contact the people – the celebrant who I need to – the venue if I need certain clearance, sometimes I need a few things. And then it’s done. It’s not a big – like I’ve done it enough now that it’s a refined, quick process because also you have couples that just say, “Just film our day, we just want a good job,” and I’ll be like, “Okay, give me some films of mine you liked,” and then I know the style.

Eddy: Yeah, I mean that must – yeah, be a very favourable background to what you’re doing now.

Eddy: All right, so you’ve mentioned content creators, so are you finding you’re working more and more with content creators these days?

Kimberley: Yes, yes. I love content creators. Um, it’s just the balance you have is some people are coming in – I’ve worked with a great one recently and she was so lovely, so good at what she did, third wedding she’s ever been in in her life. So and I just said to her, and obviously videographers sometimes they can be, you know, a bit hard on the content creators, I just said, “You just stay next to me, if you’re not sure, you just stay next to me. If you’re comfortable, you can touch me because I know you’re standing there and I’m not going to back into you. But I said if you’re with me, you’re not going to be in my way”. Um, that’s the best approach. So I just say, “Just stay right next to me,” and then we’ll be – and she was like, “Oh my God,” and I said, “Yeah, that’s fine”. Because I’ve also done content creating as well and I do it and I know, um, it’s hard but that’s the balance you’ve got is okay, so it’s a very low entry point to get in. Not saying they’re not great, they are 100%. I would have a content creator. It’s that anyone with an iPhone can do it. So look at your – look at their work. I had an issue with my phone so I have two when I do content. I had an issue with filming the kittens, going back to them, I was sending my mom these videos and she goes, “Something’s wrong with the audio on your camera,” and I had the spatula-wear was turned on, so it was going “rar rar rar” like every video. And I thought, “Oh, I have a content job coming up. I have two phones, but thank goodness I picked that up beforehand”. So and I have these checks before I do content. And I have also, dare I say it, a video camera with me just in case in say like something happens. Um, so they’re not having that level of experience, but they are important and I love content in addition to video. However, I think there’s going to be a need in the future for a discussion to happen between the video – I always pre-production, I always email the content creator beforehand. I’ve not once had a content creator reach out to me before the day to introduce themselves, but I’ve always emailed them. Just say, “Hey, I’m Kimberley, I’m doing the video, um, you’ll be clinging to my back all day, so nice to meet you”.

Eddy: “You’ll be clinging to my back all day, so nice to meet you”.

Kimberley: We’ll be together. Like and I’ve also done weddings where the content creator is the most important vendor there. So it’s knowing where I am. I will ask. It’s hard – it’s a hard question to ask, but um, I will say like, “Where do I sit in between you’ve got content, you’ve got video and photo, what are you wanting?” And sometimes it is content is the most important and I’ll be like, “Great, so I’m just going to – when it comes down to it and we’ve got those moments where you’re walking down the aisle and I have a shot and the content doesn’t, I’m going to give them that and I’m going to get a different one”. I’m going to work with them, but then when it’s the opposite and the video’s the most important, I’m going to – and I’m not saying like I’m most important, you know, but I just when you’ve got three chefs in a kitchen it gets a bit hard. So one needs to lead. Um, or one needs to know when to step back. So I’m just – and I’m happy to step back, I just want to make sure that’s what the couple wants. But content’s great. I, yeah, I think everyone should kind of get it, but I think it’s hard when you’re working with someone that doesn’t know how to work weddings. And I think sometimes I’ve worked with one person before I’m like, “We’re getting the same thing”. Do you know what would be better? Instead of you just doing the exact same shot except on a shitter quality camera, how about you go interview some guests? How about you go get something that I’m not getting currently? How can we – so I think a conversation needs to happen to be like, “Hey, this is the style of film I do. What type of content do you – they would benefit from more coverage”. So what I would love is instead of just here is sunset shots, which I love doing, but one of us go and interview guests and say, “Have you got a message for the bride and groom? Have you got this?” Get cocktail hour. We should be – so if I have two shooters, we will split always. So one of us will go to portraits, one of us will go to cocktail hour, because the guests don’t get to see that.

Aleks: Cocktail hour! Cocktail hour is so fun, couples! Stop missing out on cocktail hour!

Kimberley: I know, I’m sorry, but it’s – but also if you’re going to be 20 minutes late to your ceremony, that’s what happened to us recently. We wanted them to have their cocktail hour, but then they were late and I’m like, “That’s your cocktail hour gone”. Be on time to your own wedding! It’s not fashionably late! And I – and I that’s I always feel guilty but I’m like, “Oh, I feel guilty but that was my – that was our photo-video time”.

Eddy: Oh, I completely understand that. I mean I – I get upset when my couples are late to the – to the ceremony. I’m like, “We’re on – we’re on time, come on!” Because I don’t want things to blow out.

Aleks: “Where are they? Are they coming?”

Eddy: “Clock is ticking”.

Kimberley: No, but I completely understand that. I mean I always get – I always feel guilty but I’m like, “Oh, I feel guilty but that was my – that was our photo-video time”. So that’s interesting that you say that about content.

Aleks: And are you finding that people are asking you like, “Oh, well, why should I -” and again you don’t want to convince people that they should get a videographer because, you know…

Kimberley: I will convince you, that’s why I say don’t talk… oh you will convince you. Oh I will convince you. So if someone asked you should we get a content creator or should we get a videographer, do you get that question?

Eddy: “I’m the videographer, so I’m obviously going to say video”.

Kimberley: But I say you should at least get one. If you have the budget, everyone has a different budget and content is a great alternative if you can’t afford video. Everyone deserves to relive their memory.

Aleks: That’s what we always say as well. We’re like get video, but yeah, if you can’t afford video, then it’s at least because the barrier to entry is a lot lower than the content creator.

Kimberley: It is, and it’s not a lot of – it’s not as much post-production. I wish I could do it cheaper. It takes a lot of hours. So many hours, guys. I spend your film.

Eddy: That’s the thing we always talk about, and I think we’ve mentioned it here before. Like the DJ, we do a bit of celebrant a little bit after, but like a lot of what we do is in the lead-up and on the night, and boom, it’s almost kind of done besides maybe we’ll do yeah, hours of content, mixes, we’ll refine the mix, whatever it is. But for you guys, it’s like all ends of the spectrum, you know, so a lot afterwards.

Kimberley: A lot afterwards. We’re in – yeah, I’ve got a quite a backlog but um, it’s going well. It’s going fine. I’m fine. It’s fine. I just live on coffee um, and um just spirit and vibes. That’s how I get through. Yeah, and kittens.

Aleks: And kittens!

Kimberley: Spirits, yeah, that’s after the season. You drown your sorrows while in your editing cave. Yep, it’s – no, but and the kittens help. They’ve been a nice break, but we’re getting into yeah, the editing. And it is a big backlog. So that’s why your videographers charge what they charge because we are spending hours doing it. We love doing it but it’s very heavy. Um, it’s a lot of hours per film.

Eddy: I mean that must yeah, be a very favourable background to what you’re doing now. One other question, just keeping with the content creation: since content creation came about in weddings, are you finding couples are bit more persistent with timing for you to deliver your content to them given the content creator?

Kimberley: No, mine are – I again I don’t know why you guys keep finding me. But um, I’m doing something right, I don’t know why, but it’s great. Like they’ve just, um, if I update them on their film it’s like, “Take as long as you want”. I’m like, “Oh, no, your film’s going to be done in the specified time”. But they’re like, “No, you take longer”. I’m like, “Okay, don’t tell me…” I was like if you insist. No, I don’t know why, but it’s great. Like they’ve just, um, I give a sneak peek within it says same week, but in case I have three weddings in a row I want to give each one, but um, I give a sneak peek really quickly because I also just for me my process is I can’t go to sleep until it’s backed up. I want to check it. I need to look at it. It’s all good. Okay. Um, and then yeah, I’ll have a song sometimes in mind, and I’ll just be excited to edit it. And then I want to go then switch off next one. And then yeah, it’s a full like post-production process then I write my notes of what I was vibing and that and what I’m feeling moments I really liked, put it aside. Um, but the sneak peek’s also I want to see it! Be like, “Look how good this is!”

Aleks: How did you get that Wedchella video up the next day?

Kimberley: I had the song for that in my mind already. That was such a good video.

Aleks: It was up the next day and everyone was like, “Holy crap!”

Kimberley: I had a – so that was one where I had a vision for it. I asked – so that was one where I had a vision for it. I knew it was going to be a good dance floor. Like I knew it was going to be that, but I was like how can I get – so shout out Wedchella – Wedchella is for those listening at home, it’s a big industry party for wedding vendors, so for listeners that don’t know what Wedchella is. So, sorry, yeah, Wedchella. So shout out to the DJs. Oh yeah, the DJs.

Aleks: So it’s a big industry party.

Kimberley: So for me I thought how can I – there’s a lot of great people there, how can I showcase everyone? So that was the teething issue: it’s like how can I showcase as many people as possible? And I hadn’t done it before where I did the split screen with a bunch of people because I thought how can I give everyone a quick main character moment?

Eddy: Like the Brady Bunch thing?

Aleks: The Brady Bunch squares.

Kimberley: Exactly! So I was just playing with it. So when Jack and Dan asked me originally they said, “You can do what you want, you have free rein, you can do what you want,” and he goes, “There’s no pressure but you can go full however you want”. I said, “Great, okay, I want to use Bohemian Rhapsody”.

Eddy: Oh my God!

Kimberley: And then I’m like, “I want to use Queen”. He’s like, “Whatever you want”. I said, “Great, okay”. And then I just had the – like I’ve been wanting to use that song for a while. So that was one where I had a vision for it. I always listen to it and there’s songs that I have that I’ve wanted to use. Um, and I’ve always listened to it for years, I’ve always wanted to edit to it, and then I had, um, there’s like that I don’t know in music talk, but the peak moment where I’d like this would be amazing… I’m not going to sing it.

Aleks: Please!

Kimberley: It just goes… “Gali-Gali-Gali-Gali-Gali-Gali-Gali-Gali for me!” And then… and I’m just like I’ve always imagined something. It’s the same – it’s the same as a Nutbush, but it’s the same as like I’ve always wanted to edit to it. So um, I was like how can I do this and then I just sort of thought the moments and then Spencer at Rupert and Ripple’s leaving so I thought I’ll give him his own little moment. And then the rest and again it’s like a wedding so I could direct more than I normally would but it was like a wedding where then I knew I was like there’s a lot of main characters here. I found it actually quite overwhelming. Just a few.

Eddy: It was overwhelming because normally I’m like this is my main characters and everyone else, but I thought, well, there’s a lot of which is good! Like it’s good but I was like, “Who do I focus on?”

Kimberley: There’s so many. So I found it very hard. And then that song also that “where the hell is my husband?” has been I thought how can I tie it into the wedding industry because I want people to watch this and know this is a wedding industry party. This is weddingy. And if you’re at a party, it’s not weddingy but how do I respect and be like, “Hey guys, shout out to weddings, because we’re a wedding”. And that’s why I wanted the “duh-duh-duh-duh-duh”. So I had that kind of in my mind beforehand and then um, it just came together. It’s yeah, I’m really proud of it.

Eddy: It was amazing. It was absolute banger of a video.

Kimberley: I know, I’m really proud of it.

Eddy: Do they get good views and stuff on Instagram?

Kimberley: They do. They do. And also because it’s not – I try to wait a bit sneak peek and then it’s the reaction video. Everyone will start doing them, so they’re going to lose… which is fine. I’m not the inventor, but people there’s reaction videos everywhere. It’s not a – and I assume people will do it and that’s great but I think where people miss the mark the videographers is they do a reaction video to the whole film. And I don’t agree with that because I think – oh, you have to watch?

Aleks: Like a five-minute… “Oh my God, do you remember that?”

Kimberley: Yeah, no, you want that quick – so I just got married, we’re fun, we’re in love. With their film, that’s a moment for them. Don’t intrude on that moment. That’s my opinion.

Eddy: I can – I can… yeah.

Aleks: Have you ever thought of, just stay with me here, post-production adding their reaction into the film itself? And then doing another reaction video. A reaction by inception. Like to the – yes, to the sneak peek and then reaction the whole thing. Leave it with me.

Eddy: I like it!

Kimberley: No, you can. I mean, it’s very easily done, I reckon.

Aleks: Oh, if it’s good enough quality.

Kimberley: Yeah, no, because it would start out as a sneak peak, it’s very easily done I reckon.

Aleks: Oh, I love this! Very exciting. Any – any ideas for us music stuff? Any…

Kimberley: Oh, no, guys, I don’t know. I only know again, my own – I’m very passionate about video because that’s what I do all the time, but other people I’m like trust them to do their job well.

Eddy: We do our best.

Aleks: No, we all do our best.

Kimberley: Yeah, it’s the same as I trust I’m like, oh, they’re going to get the dance floor going, I don’t need to – no one’s special.

Eddy: No, no, no, but you are special by virtue of the fact that you are doing it because a lot of people don’t.

Kimberley: But I think it’s more well, I think it’s when you’ve got the experience, you’re more confident as well.

Aleks: So Kimberley Moore, you’ve been a delight. Anything else you want to add? What’s your like – what’s your one tip, maybe not film related, but like for a couple to just like have the best day?

Kimberley: Everyone’s going to say this. I feel like, um – everyone’s going to say just plan the day you want, all that stuff, which is a standard tip, but um, I would say pick one or two things that are unique to you that you want to remember. So um, if you love your animals, if you make a moment for that. And then also try and have five minutes just to soak it in. Um, and just be – when in doubt, be with your partner on the day. So if you’re not sure what to do and if you’re like, “Oh, where am I?” If you’re – it’s your wedding day together, so grab their hand and just like you’re going to greet guests, go grab them together. I feel like people who do things together are having more of a funner time than splitting up.

Eddy: Agree!

Aleks: Agreed! And it goes quickly!

Kimberley: It does! That’s my question.

Eddy: What is your perfect Sunday?

Kimberley: Oh, I can answer that. Um, it’s when I’ve got the sneak peek done, so I’ve sent that off, they’ve come back to me immediately and said, “We love it!” And I go, “Great, okay”.

Aleks: Got the reaction video?

Kimberley: I’ve got the reaction video. I don’t have to worry that – because when I send it off, you know, there’s that thing where we send off the sneak peek and I go, “I don’t know like they’re going to hate it, they’re going to hate me, what else am I going to do after this?” And then I get it back and they’re like, “We love it!” And I say, “Of course you do. That’s great, obviously”. And then, um, no, but then it is probably putting on a slow cooker.

Aleks: Oh!

Kimberley: Oh or seeing my parents for lunch because we live close to each other. Um, walking my dog Lulu, spending time with my partner, he’s probably gone to go golf but um, and then it is just like spending the day with my cats and everything and just…

Eddy: That sounds like our perfect – that sounds like our perfect Sunday.

Kimberley: I like to fill my cup so then I can bring – we’re very lucky that well I’m very lucky that this is my full-time job and that I can stop and smell the roses. I’m very big on obviously these days are beautiful but it’s all the moments that lead up to this that make it more memorable. So I’m all about living for the now. So yeah, spending time with my animals.

Aleks: That was also a line from Hot Fuzz, by the way. I don’t know if you – because we were talking about the Cornetto trilogy before. I’m just – I’m always – all I do is watch Hot Fuzz and…

Kimberley: I just love how you answered that question so seriously as well. I was like, oh, did she think about that?

Eddy: Wow, you’re – your brain works in so many ways.

Kimberley: Thank you. And what’s the best way for people to get in touch with you?

Eddy: Probably through my website, www.kimberleymooremedia.com. Um, they can check out my Instagram if you send me a DM I will respond to it.

Aleks: Oh, you’re one of those!

Kimberley: I don’t have one of those auto-responders. I hate those. If every time I reply to someone and they keep getting it… yeah, I’m like can you turn that off for replies? Um, I will but the best way is to fill out my – if you’re interested in working or having me as part of your day, fill out the contact form on my website and I’ll get in touch.

Aleks: Make sure you fill your pronouns out as well.

Kimberley: Yeah, that’s helpful. Otherwise you’ll be rejected by Kimberley Moore. And fair enough. Thank you so much. Big clap for Kim!

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